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	<title>Comments on: Saudi oil: &#8220;you will definitely see it&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Cutting through the effects of the US empire</description>
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		<title>By: Deep Blade</title>
		<link>http://deepblade.net/journal/2004/08/saudi-oil-you-will-definitely-see-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep Blade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cs, you're welcome. As of this morning (Tuesday), I'm still trying to digest the &lt;a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0806.pdf"&gt;new energy plan release&lt;/a&gt; from Kerry/Edwards that appeared last Friday. Initial impression: There is plenty here to horrify an environmentalist, public lands advocate, nuke activist, or critic of government subsidies to big-time agribusiness. Some of it is just plain bromide: eg "Make America independent of Middle East oil" (nothing they propose will come even close to doing that, short of the pie-sky promise of the futuristic "hydrogen economy." On the other hand, there are concrete, positive steps toward sound public policy on energy efficiency, conservation, and energy tech job creation. So there is &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; realism here, and we're gonna need that worse than ever by the end of President Kerry's first term in January 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cs, you&#8217;re welcome. As of this morning (Tuesday), I&#8217;m still trying to digest the <a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0806.pdf">new energy plan release</a> from Kerry/Edwards that appeared last Friday. Initial impression: There is plenty here to horrify an environmentalist, public lands advocate, nuke activist, or critic of government subsidies to big-time agribusiness. Some of it is just plain bromide: eg &#8220;Make America independent of Middle East oil&#8221; (nothing they propose will come even close to doing that, short of the pie-sky promise of the futuristic &#8220;hydrogen economy.&#8221; On the other hand, there are concrete, positive steps toward sound public policy on energy efficiency, conservation, and energy tech job creation. So there is <i>some</i> realism here, and we&#8217;re gonna need that worse than ever by the end of President Kerry&#8217;s first term in January 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://deepblade.net/journal/2004/08/saudi-oil-you-will-definitely-see-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 11:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll be interested to read your post on the Kerry plan. And thanks for the link to your article on the 1st Gulf War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be interested to read your post on the Kerry plan. And thanks for the link to your article on the 1st Gulf War.</p>
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		<title>By: Deep Blade</title>
		<link>http://deepblade.net/journal/2004/08/saudi-oil-you-will-definitely-see-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep Blade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 01:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I've had a pretty extensive post in process on the Kerry energy plan -- and it is a significant, solid plan. It's "balanced", in that oil/gas drilling (everywhere &lt;i&gt;except&lt;/i&gt; ANWR, is a big feature that isn't exactly an environmentalist's dream. BUT, there will be a point where everyone's going to realize that oil/gas development is a necessary evil. Personally I'd rather have a Kerry administration in charge where, unlike spigots-wide-open Cheney, some effort at demand control will go hand-in-hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;ve had a pretty extensive post in process on the Kerry energy plan &#8212; and it is a significant, solid plan. It&#8217;s &#8220;balanced&#8221;, in that oil/gas drilling (everywhere <i>except</i> ANWR, is a big feature that isn&#8217;t exactly an environmentalist&#8217;s dream. BUT, there will be a point where everyone&#8217;s going to realize that oil/gas development is a necessary evil. Personally I&#8217;d rather have a Kerry administration in charge where, unlike spigots-wide-open Cheney, some effort at demand control will go hand-in-hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Deep Blade</title>
		<link>http://deepblade.net/journal/2004/08/saudi-oil-you-will-definitely-see-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep Blade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. There is a definite link between "wanton", spigot-wide-open energy polices; and human rights and war. In 1991 I published some fairly extensive comments about the energy backdrop behind the first Gulf War. That article has been posted &lt;a href="http://deep_blade.tripod.com/news/archive_001a.htm"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. There is a definite link between &#8220;wanton&#8221;, spigot-wide-open energy polices; and human rights and war. In 1991 I published some fairly extensive comments about the energy backdrop behind the first Gulf War. That article has been posted <a href="http://deep_blade.tripod.com/news/archive_001a.htm">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
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		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 21:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been one of those folks who turned down the thermostat, eschewed air conditioning and appreciated it when Jimmy Carter put on his sweater and told us to conserve voluntarily now for better energy and human rights future around the globe, I've deplored the wanton policies that won out over his sensible ones back in the 80s. So here we are. One bright spot is that I believe Kerry has been preparing for this day and how to negotiate our way  toward a future that was rejected when voluntary but has now become necessity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been one of those folks who turned down the thermostat, eschewed air conditioning and appreciated it when Jimmy Carter put on his sweater and told us to conserve voluntarily now for better energy and human rights future around the globe, I&#8217;ve deplored the wanton policies that won out over his sensible ones back in the 80s. So here we are. One bright spot is that I believe Kerry has been preparing for this day and how to negotiate our way  toward a future that was rejected when voluntary but has now become necessity.</p>
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