Comments on: Let bygones be bygones? http://deepblade.net/journal/2006/11/let-bygones-be-bygones.html Cutting through the effects of the US empire Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:57:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Wallsy http://deepblade.net/journal/2006/11/let-bygones-be-bygones.html#comment-673 Wallsy Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:54:18 +0000 http://deepblade.net/journal/2006/11/let-bygones-be-bygones.html#comment-673 Karen Armstrong is amazing. Have you read her "A History of Islam"; very very good. Karen Armstrong is amazing. Have you read her “A History of Islam”; very very good.

]]> By: Owl http://deepblade.net/journal/2006/11/let-bygones-be-bygones.html#comment-676 Owl Sat, 25 Nov 2006 22:41:16 +0000 http://deepblade.net/journal/2006/11/let-bygones-be-bygones.html#comment-676 Thank you Caryl & Wallsy for your comments. I've had a look at Caryl's blog and I definitely recommend it. I find especially pertinent the <a href="http://from-the-catacombs.blogspot.com/2006/11/return-of-republic.html">recent post</a> on ``Return of the Republic''. I'm rather a fan of Karen Armstrong. I have had a post going on the Glenn Beck anti-Islam propaganda piece recently broadcast over the CNN cesspool that also contains the insufferable Nancy Grace. I wish I could get the darn thing done. It's interesting how rabid the Horowitz/Frontpage/Jihadwatch/Spencer/LGF crowd becomes when it confronts the heresy of fair-minded treatment of struggle between Western imperial power and Islamic reaction. Thank you Caryl & Wallsy for your comments. I’ve had a look at Caryl’s blog and I definitely recommend it. I find especially pertinent the recent post on “Return of the Republic”. I’m rather a fan of Karen Armstrong. I have had a post going on the Glenn Beck anti-Islam propaganda piece recently broadcast over the CNN cesspool that also contains the insufferable Nancy Grace. I wish I could get the darn thing done. It’s interesting how rabid the Horowitz/Frontpage/Jihadwatch/Spencer/LGF crowd becomes when it confronts the heresy of fair-minded treatment of struggle between Western imperial power and Islamic reaction.

]]> By: Wallsy http://deepblade.net/journal/2006/11/let-bygones-be-bygones.html#comment-675 Wallsy Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:59:07 +0000 http://deepblade.net/journal/2006/11/let-bygones-be-bygones.html#comment-675 Have to agree. What is needed is a robust analytical framework based on pertinent questions regarding the as yet unstated reasons for going to war. This requires too dismantling the "liberal-democratic" discourse hujacked by the Bush administration and Democrats in order to crtically question purported utopian outcomes allegedly accruing from particular pragmatic interventions. For example, since regime change was one of the obvious rationales behind the war - euphemistically framed as liberation - we must question the valididity of teh argument that simply by removing the serpent's head the serpent will die. In my research I have discovered that policies predicated on the latter invariably cause chaos, or, in Bush doublespeak "stability". By removing the only stabilisng factor in a country for the sake of "liberation" you are basically sending that country to Hell. In other words, the interpretation of universal liberty used by the Bush admin in this context, believed to apply to each and any situation, invariably leads to unbridled chaos. WHich leads us to the question, why did they not know this? Or, did they know it but just didn't acknowledge it? Or, were there other aganedas at play which trumped upholding the guding myths of the great nation? As we all know there is evidence to suggest the latter and the former, but how do we set up a tribunal that deals with these issues empirically? A challenge indeed, but a worthy one. God Bless Have to agree. What is needed is a robust analytical framework based on pertinent questions regarding the as yet unstated reasons for going to war. This requires too dismantling the “liberal-democratic” discourse hujacked by the Bush administration and Democrats in order to crtically question purported utopian outcomes allegedly accruing from particular pragmatic interventions. For example, since regime change was one of the obvious rationales behind the war - euphemistically framed as liberation - we must question the valididity of teh argument that simply by removing the serpent’s head the serpent will die. In my research I have discovered that policies predicated on the latter invariably cause chaos, or, in Bush doublespeak “stability”. By removing the only stabilisng factor in a country for the sake of “liberation” you are basically sending that country to Hell. In other words, the interpretation of universal liberty used by the Bush admin in this context, believed to apply to each and any situation, invariably leads to unbridled chaos. WHich leads us to the question, why did they not know this? Or, did they know it but just didn’t acknowledge it? Or, were there other aganedas at play which trumped upholding the guding myths of the great nation? As we all know there is evidence to suggest the latter and the former, but how do we set up a tribunal that deals with these issues empirically? A challenge indeed, but a worthy one.

God Bless

]]> By: Caryl Johnston http://deepblade.net/journal/2006/11/let-bygones-be-bygones.html#comment-674 Caryl Johnston Fri, 24 Nov 2006 02:04:55 +0000 http://deepblade.net/journal/2006/11/let-bygones-be-bygones.html#comment-674 Excellent post, Deep Blade. How is it that Americans have come to believe that truth is something that "gets in the way of business"? It is a perversion of the Christian teaching of forgiveness. I really hope that you and other like-minded bloggers will continue to call for "keeping up the pressure on the Democrats." Excellent post, Deep Blade. How is it that Americans have come to believe that truth is something that “gets in the way of business”? It is a perversion of the Christian teaching of forgiveness.
I really hope that you and other like-minded bloggers will continue to call for “keeping up the pressure on the Democrats.”

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